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policy will not be in the spotlight despite control the cia over many issues including secretive u.s. drone bombing campaigns charlie mcgrath the fond of wide awake news alternative current affairs website says the u.s. government has to pay that own interest ahead of a population's causing its citizens to delve deeper into financial trouble because all this promised over the last four years that we were going to revive the middle class and we were going to strengthen it and exactly the opposite has occurred but there's another reason why i believe that they want to get the middle class on board with any future a raising of debt ceilings this is the governor by crisis tactic that we like to use you know talk about the middle class talk about how we're going to do things for them but it's only going to work if we throw you further and further into debt free time we have a crisis to govern by crisis moment we have the government rushing in with this solution in every single time it's more and more debt so i think a lot of people here in the united states are sitting back thinking well
policy will not be in the spotlight despite control the cia over many issues including secretive u.s. drone bombing campaigns charlie mcgrath the fond of wide awake news alternative current affairs website says the u.s. government has to pay that own interest ahead of a population's causing its citizens to delve deeper into financial trouble because all this promised over the last four years that we were going to revive the middle class and we were going to strengthen it and exactly the...
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policy won't be in the spotlight despite controversy over many issues including secretive u.s. drone bombing campaigns well let's now cross live to china graff he's the founder of wide awake news website and joining me live there in the u.s. charlie the speech is expected to address the prosperity of america's middle class why is that so important to a bomber at the moment. well i think you know there's a number of reasons why that the primary reason is we've had all this promise over the last four years that we were going to revive the middle class and we were going to strengthen it and exactly the opposite has occurred but there's another reason why i believe that they want to get the middle class on board with any future a raising of debt ceilings or. the march deadline for sequester ration is coming up you know this is the governed by crisis tactic that we like to use you know talk about the middle class talk about how we're going to do things for them but it's only going to work if we throw you further and further into debt i think that the i think the suffering middle cla
policy won't be in the spotlight despite controversy over many issues including secretive u.s. drone bombing campaigns well let's now cross live to china graff he's the founder of wide awake news website and joining me live there in the u.s. charlie the speech is expected to address the prosperity of america's middle class why is that so important to a bomber at the moment. well i think you know there's a number of reasons why that the primary reason is we've had all this promise over the last...
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policy will not be in the spotlight despite controversy over many issues including secretive u.s. drone bombing campaigns human rights lawyer stanley cohen says that these targeted assassinations are actually. we're not at war in pakistan we're not it war in yemen we're not at war in lebannon we're not in war in somalia if you want to clear war if you want to follow international law if you want to make your case you play by the rules the fact of the matter is no matter what you call this it's murder it's assassination it's illegal we're talking about murdering civilians we're talking about attacks by drones in countries that are our allies if there were a person is there that we are want that are wanted american citizens yemenis citizens pakistani citizens somalis citizens for crimes here you go to the countries yeah extradite him you charge him you bring him to trial the united states under international law cannot must not enough to no stretch of the imagination is justified in the use of drones in the execution and the extrajudicial assassination of not just americans of anyon
policy will not be in the spotlight despite controversy over many issues including secretive u.s. drone bombing campaigns human rights lawyer stanley cohen says that these targeted assassinations are actually. we're not at war in pakistan we're not it war in yemen we're not at war in lebannon we're not in war in somalia if you want to clear war if you want to follow international law if you want to make your case you play by the rules the fact of the matter is no matter what you call this it's...
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policy will not be in the spotlight despite controversy over many issues including secretive u.s. drone bombing campaigns human rights lawyer stanley cohen says that these targeted assassinations are actually murder. we're not at war in pakistan we're not it war in yemen we're not at war in lebanon we're not in war in somalia if you want to clear war if you want to follow international law if you want to make your case you play by the rules the fact of the matter is no matter what you call this it's murder it's assassination it's illegal we're talking about murdering civilians we're talking about attacks by drones in countries that are our allies if there were persons there that we are want that are wanted american citizens yemenis citizens pakistani citizens somali citizens for crimes here you go to the countries you extradite him you charge him you bring him to trial the united states under international law cannot must not enough to no stretch of the imagination is justified in the use of drones in the execution and the extrajudicial assassination of not just americans of anyon
policy will not be in the spotlight despite controversy over many issues including secretive u.s. drone bombing campaigns human rights lawyer stanley cohen says that these targeted assassinations are actually murder. we're not at war in pakistan we're not it war in yemen we're not at war in lebanon we're not in war in somalia if you want to clear war if you want to follow international law if you want to make your case you play by the rules the fact of the matter is no matter what you call this...
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foreign policy issues as well on the agenda big announcer expected on the number of u.s. troops in afghanistan now that is expected to be cut by one hot off does this suggest that america ready thanks is mission accomplished now in afghanistan. well that's what mr obama will say but is you well know this crisis and afghanistan is just reaching a higher level no one expects the taleban to lay down their weapons no one expects allies in neighboring pakistan to do the same i dare say that it is highly likely that the president mr gratian in kabul led by mr karzai will face a very perlas future when the u.s. troops pull out career of course is on the agenda too in the headlines at the moment that's obviously going to be something that he's going to be talking about and north korea's nuclear ambitions just how serious does america see this nuclear threat from. well as you well know there is presently a truce between north korea and united states there was a truce negotiated in one nine hundred fifty three and technically the democratic people's republic of korea and united sta
foreign policy issues as well on the agenda big announcer expected on the number of u.s. troops in afghanistan now that is expected to be cut by one hot off does this suggest that america ready thanks is mission accomplished now in afghanistan. well that's what mr obama will say but is you well know this crisis and afghanistan is just reaching a higher level no one expects the taleban to lay down their weapons no one expects allies in neighboring pakistan to do the same i dare say that it is...
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and obama is also expected to turn on america's foreign policy which is becoming increasingly hearns free thanks to modern technology like unmanned aircraft this comes as the last administration seems to justify the practice of killing terrorist suspects including american citizens was trying some crude on human rights new a stanley cohen says these targeted assassinations are actually met. we're not at war in pakistan we're not it war in yemen we're not at war in lebannon we're not in war in somalia if you want to clear war if you want to follow international law if you want to make your case you play by the rules the fact of the matter is no matter what you call this it's murder it's assassination it's illegal we're talking about murdering civilians we're talking about attacks by drones in countries that are our allies if there were a person is there that we are want that are wanted american citizens yemenis citizens pakistani citizens somali citizens for crimes here you go to the countries yeah extradite him you charge him you bring him to trial the united states under internation
and obama is also expected to turn on america's foreign policy which is becoming increasingly hearns free thanks to modern technology like unmanned aircraft this comes as the last administration seems to justify the practice of killing terrorist suspects including american citizens was trying some crude on human rights new a stanley cohen says these targeted assassinations are actually met. we're not at war in pakistan we're not it war in yemen we're not at war in lebannon we're not in war in...
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idon't develop the programs, don't develop policy, i don't do foreign policy or military policy or military objectives. once congress and the executive branch decide what the policy or program is, then we see how well it's done and if there are problems, we make recommendations. going back to the taxation issue, it's a critical issue. now the afghan government, what they collect is about $2 billion per year. just paying for the afghan national security force is over $4 billion. then and all the other programs. the problem is there's a delta between what the afghans collect and it cost of running their government, the cost of fighting the taliban, the cost of maintaining order. that difference is being supported by the united states taxpayer and by our allies. but it is conditioned. the caller and others have some concerns about how well that is being spent. that is the value. a lot of discussion came out of the tokyo accords about the international community will not walk, but they're trying to put conditions on the ability of the afghan government to govern and to fight corruption. people
idon't develop the programs, don't develop policy, i don't do foreign policy or military policy or military objectives. once congress and the executive branch decide what the policy or program is, then we see how well it's done and if there are problems, we make recommendations. going back to the taxation issue, it's a critical issue. now the afghan government, what they collect is about $2 billion per year. just paying for the afghan national security force is over $4 billion. then and all the...
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policy i'm also not an expert on sustainable farming systems the history of social movements or lego's the occupy movement has experts on all those things and more not really one of the happily married husband a father of two fantastic children i live on a main street in a small new england town with actual white picket fences i made this movie for you me and everyone we know in the hope that we can create a world where human need comes before corporate greed so why does it feel almost un-american to say that i think about it this way just go with me for a second here you know that scene from the oliver stone film wall street when gordon gekko played by michael douglas in a role that would win him an oscar appears at a shareholders meeting of a company or paper to defend his actions and his grotesque worldview and delivers the now famous speech where he says. the lack of better word is good. right. create works. there.
policy i'm also not an expert on sustainable farming systems the history of social movements or lego's the occupy movement has experts on all those things and more not really one of the happily married husband a father of two fantastic children i live on a main street in a small new england town with actual white picket fences i made this movie for you me and everyone we know in the hope that we can create a world where human need comes before corporate greed so why does it feel almost...
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policy i'm also not an expert on sustainable farming systems the history of social movements or lego's the occupy movement has experts on all those things and more. i'm not really one of them i'm happily married husband the father of truth and past the children i live on a main street in a small new england town with actual white picket fences i made this movie for you me and everyone we know in the hope that we can create a world where human need comes before corporate greed so why does it feel almost un-american to say that the think about it this way just go with me.
policy i'm also not an expert on sustainable farming systems the history of social movements or lego's the occupy movement has experts on all those things and more. i'm not really one of them i'm happily married husband the father of truth and past the children i live on a main street in a small new england town with actual white picket fences i made this movie for you me and everyone we know in the hope that we can create a world where human need comes before corporate greed so why does it...
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guest: transafrica is the organization that i began in 1976 to galvanize african-american opinion on foreign-policy issues, particularly issues that concern the black world, u.s. policy towards africa, the caribbean and latin america. so transafrica of course was the organization that used its incher mentalities to galvanize american opposition to apartheid and with the embassy arrests that we were able to organize the arrest of 5000 people and in the 1980s and 1984 and the next year, and with that working with members of congress. we won the support for the set of sanctions that president reagan vetoed and his veto was overridden by a republican-controlled senate excess of the work we did and the millions we organized to make a difference. that, coupled with the great work that was being done in south africa led to a new africa that we see today. but we have been doing that work over a period of time. i had been there 25 years when i stepped down. >> host: who are maxey and doris robinson? >> guest: maxie robinson was my father and doris robinson was my mother. and i have already introduced you to
guest: transafrica is the organization that i began in 1976 to galvanize african-american opinion on foreign-policy issues, particularly issues that concern the black world, u.s. policy towards africa, the caribbean and latin america. so transafrica of course was the organization that used its incher mentalities to galvanize american opposition to apartheid and with the embassy arrests that we were able to organize the arrest of 5000 people and in the 1980s and 1984 and the next year, and with...
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policy and stronger party in keeping, you know, america safe and terrorism. we've never seen that before. republicans have always won on those measures. whether or not it's the reality on the ground and you can point to each country it does seem to be a perception out there that this party is doing something to keep america safe. >> the perceptions change and perceptions clearly change when suddenly we discovered that in libya and in egypt we were not as beloved as president obama would have had us-- would have had us believe because he gave a beautiful speech in cairo. in fact, our popularity ratings in many of those countries. >> going back five years. >> are lower than they were under the last-- >> going back five years. >> under george w. bush. >> you're five years old on that statement. >> this is another perfect example. we supported what was supposed to be a freedom agenda in egypt and what do we have? we have a muslim brotherhood taking over. >> and mubarak in office a better move? a dictator in office a better move. >> the current dictator had a love
policy and stronger party in keeping, you know, america safe and terrorism. we've never seen that before. republicans have always won on those measures. whether or not it's the reality on the ground and you can point to each country it does seem to be a perception out there that this party is doing something to keep america safe. >> the perceptions change and perceptions clearly change when suddenly we discovered that in libya and in egypt we were not as beloved as president obama would...
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anything anybody is upset about in foreign policy, or domestic policy or taxes or spending, even though there are other people in the administration that are going to take the hit for it or some of the blame should go to congress the president is going to take that hit with the voting public. did not cost him re-election, but it doesn't surprise me that someone like hillary clinton, who has now gone to retirement, and, you know, the blow of that already is there for her, was there for her before she left, i'm not surprised at all by that, jon. jon: it's my understanding you're in key west today, is that right? >> yes, i am. jon: take off your necktie, man. >> i came out of vacation to be with you guys, and i'm sorry for the snow that is coming your way. jon: we appreciate you showing up for work, playing with pain. while we're getting a blizzard joe trippi is down in key west with a necktie on, his self be imposed torture. thank you so much. jenna: he showed up as you point out and he did apologize for being there, and we accept. jon: always count on joe. jenna: we certainly do. her run
anything anybody is upset about in foreign policy, or domestic policy or taxes or spending, even though there are other people in the administration that are going to take the hit for it or some of the blame should go to congress the president is going to take that hit with the voting public. did not cost him re-election, but it doesn't surprise me that someone like hillary clinton, who has now gone to retirement, and, you know, the blow of that already is there for her, was there for her...
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but general, i hope that you look up the article that was written on gentry 17th in the foreign policy magazine about egis at the kabul industry and the problems that have already surfaced about them. now i have talked to patrick kennedy about this and his staff has come over and briefed by staff that they believe it is doing just fine. the end of this i have to tell you the umbrella contract for the high level security in the sea is a 10 billion-dollar contract over five years and i won't go into the report of the background check but it's $100 -- $100 million a year. i can't believe we can't use the marines in these situations. somebody has got to do cost-benefit analysis. all that i told you. can you imagine in the money that we spent fooling around with these contractors the were not getting the job done can you imagine the time we spend and the money that has been spent? i would like for you to talk about the cost benefits of putting marines on the embassy's when we are in contingencies and why this is so hard to get our arms around and how are we saving any money? >> welcome a se
but general, i hope that you look up the article that was written on gentry 17th in the foreign policy magazine about egis at the kabul industry and the problems that have already surfaced about them. now i have talked to patrick kennedy about this and his staff has come over and briefed by staff that they believe it is doing just fine. the end of this i have to tell you the umbrella contract for the high level security in the sea is a 10 billion-dollar contract over five years and i won't go...
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foreign policy. many people around the world are very concerned. as they should be all right appreciate your thoughts on the subject will be interesting to see how this plays out dr colonic carvel scholar and author of exporting made in america democracy thanks for being with us. now later in the program iran gives egypt a loan to help the cash strapped state that is foundering in political crisis stay afloat. that is despite tehran itself laboring under severe economic pressure after several rounds of us backed sanctions over its nuclear program. tunisia is witnessing the largest political crisis sense of the revolution two years ago anti-government protests turned violent as police used tear gas to disperse crowds near the interior ministry earlier the violence spread to the southern city of god where hundreds attacked security forces with stones and petrol bombs and rest was sparked by the assassination of the secular opposition leader bill light known for his anti islamic criticism the country's prime minister moved to quell the unrest by formi
foreign policy. many people around the world are very concerned. as they should be all right appreciate your thoughts on the subject will be interesting to see how this plays out dr colonic carvel scholar and author of exporting made in america democracy thanks for being with us. now later in the program iran gives egypt a loan to help the cash strapped state that is foundering in political crisis stay afloat. that is despite tehran itself laboring under severe economic pressure after several...
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you don't have to follow the mubarak foreign policy record. you can actually do your own thing and iranian regime is seeing an opportunity to have a hand in bringing egypt in on their team. melissa: so how do you think that plays out? if they go in and offer the them the exact same support, who would they choose? >> well it depends on exactly how they want to go forward. remember the shoe throwing. what does that symbolize? at the core you have clerics also in egypt and morsi regime is obviously muslim brotherhood. they are very religious. they don't see the geopolitical advances here as a priority. they might see the sunni, shiite rivalry being more important. this trip was a slap in the face to the u.s. who is offering all this help to egypt there is also, the clerics have been repicking ahmadinejad and iranian regime you can't extend this shiite agenda throughout the region. melissa: we're not super popular there either. >> no, we're not. melissa: i don't know, are we necessarily anymore popular? >> this is the wake-up call for the american
you don't have to follow the mubarak foreign policy record. you can actually do your own thing and iranian regime is seeing an opportunity to have a hand in bringing egypt in on their team. melissa: so how do you think that plays out? if they go in and offer the them the exact same support, who would they choose? >> well it depends on exactly how they want to go forward. remember the shoe throwing. what does that symbolize? at the core you have clerics also in egypt and morsi regime is...
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i wanted to spell out what my mission is for the foreign policy. it's a unique position and one that needs to be expressed. we often have two polar extremes and really just one, for the most part, that we're everywhere you will a of the time. the other extreme is that it would be nowhere any of the time and that would be isolationism. there's a realistic approach somewhere in the middle and it would involve containment. i talked a lot about george kennan who may be the most famous diplomats, thought to be one of the chief architects of containment and i think there's some of ththat may apply to rad islam. it's an thet cal to freedom and has to be opposed at various parts around the world but i don't think the standard approach of having 100,000 troops in countries is really the approach that we need. >> because you have a very nuance position when it comes to iran and its nuclear ambitions, and i want to you explain it. the president says there should be no policy of containing a nuclear iran. the policy must be preventing iran from becoming a nucl
i wanted to spell out what my mission is for the foreign policy. it's a unique position and one that needs to be expressed. we often have two polar extremes and really just one, for the most part, that we're everywhere you will a of the time. the other extreme is that it would be nowhere any of the time and that would be isolationism. there's a realistic approach somewhere in the middle and it would involve containment. i talked a lot about george kennan who may be the most famous diplomats,...
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policy than his alstad leader hosni mubarak. iran's strongest ally in the arab world has now been serious serious been a very loyal ally of iran all these years the reason why pro israel lobby why the americans why the saudis etc so keen to talk sad now there's no such moment the syrian government is about where it already around would be even more isolated than east today and the area is very dangerous so that's what makes sense for iran to be trying to build bridges. and there's no way that the americans are going to look. with anything other than horror and the idea that. egypt could replace syria as a loyal friend of iran is a long way to the future now so i think iran's got to be very careful doesn't want to it's a loser for syria and should be to carry on supporting syria but that doesn't mean of course that it can't try to build. mosques point of view i think as we see in r.t. all the rest in egypt but people are very unhappy with how things are going legacy and carry on a look at it and ship people are on iran in one way
policy than his alstad leader hosni mubarak. iran's strongest ally in the arab world has now been serious serious been a very loyal ally of iran all these years the reason why pro israel lobby why the americans why the saudis etc so keen to talk sad now there's no such moment the syrian government is about where it already around would be even more isolated than east today and the area is very dangerous so that's what makes sense for iran to be trying to build bridges. and there's no way that...
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policy than its alstad leader hosni mubarak. ran strongest ally in the arab world has now been serious serious been a brutal ally of iran in the region why pro israel lobby why the americans while the saudis are sector are so keen to talk. now there's no such moment the syrian government is about where it's going around would be even more isolated than east today and the area is very dangerous so that's what makes sense for iran to be trying. and there's no way that the americans are going to look. with anything other than horror and the idea that. egypt could replace syria as a loyal friend of iran is a long way to the future now so i think iran's got to be very careful doesn't want to get to toulouse or syria and should be to carry on supporting syria but that doesn't mean of course that it can't try to build. mosques point of view i think as we see in r.t. all the rest of egypt people are very happy with how things are going legacy and carry on a look at it and ship people are on iran in one way that she can say to these peop
policy than its alstad leader hosni mubarak. ran strongest ally in the arab world has now been serious serious been a brutal ally of iran in the region why pro israel lobby why the americans while the saudis are sector are so keen to talk. now there's no such moment the syrian government is about where it's going around would be even more isolated than east today and the area is very dangerous so that's what makes sense for iran to be trying. and there's no way that the americans are going to...
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policy than its altitude predecessor hosni mubarak. around the strongest ally in the arab world has now been serious serious been a very low ally of iran all these years the reason why the pro israel lobby why the americans why the saudis etc so keen to talk sad now there's no such moment the syrian government is about what we're all going around would be even more isolated going to use today and be in a very dangerous position so that's what makes sense for iran to be trying to build bridges with. all of their financial motives behind this meeting where we've got to believe that economies are bearing in mind the situation they're in iran with all those sanctions appearing to have a quite an impact on the iranian economy do you do they both need each other i think they do go out and i think morsi point of view i think as we see now are going to rest in egypt but people are very unhappy with how things are going to get seen carrying on live are actually people are on the run to be one way in which you can say to these people look i'm no
policy than its altitude predecessor hosni mubarak. around the strongest ally in the arab world has now been serious serious been a very low ally of iran all these years the reason why the pro israel lobby why the americans why the saudis etc so keen to talk sad now there's no such moment the syrian government is about what we're all going around would be even more isolated going to use today and be in a very dangerous position so that's what makes sense for iran to be trying to build bridges...
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policy than its ousted predecessor hosni mubarak. around the strongest ally in the arab world has now been serious serious been a brutal ally of iran is the reason why the pro israel lobby why the americans why the saudis etc so keen to talk sad now there's no such moment the syrian government is about where it's all going around would be even more isolated than it is today and to you in a very dangerous position so that's what makes sense for iran trying to build bridges with. all of their financial motives behind this meeting where we've got to believe the economies are bearing in mind the situation there in iran with all those sanctions appearing to have a quite an impact on the iranian economy do you do they both need each other i think they do believe that and i think morsi point of view i think as we see. all the rest of egypt people are very happy with how things are going to get seen carrying on the move are actually people are on the run the one way in which you can say to these people look i'm not just a us puppet i'm going
policy than its ousted predecessor hosni mubarak. around the strongest ally in the arab world has now been serious serious been a brutal ally of iran is the reason why the pro israel lobby why the americans why the saudis etc so keen to talk sad now there's no such moment the syrian government is about where it's all going around would be even more isolated than it is today and to you in a very dangerous position so that's what makes sense for iran trying to build bridges with. all of their...
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here in the several headquarters of the ruling elite is the most policy around the country actually of not being set on fire and you see a tipping point here because ultimately tunisia is credited by many as being the opening the starting beginning points of what was the hour of spring in the scales tipped once again. yes i think you know i mean as i told you i mean everywhere i mean anger is prevailing and people are very very very angry and sad. about. it is no victims until now you know. you know people just. don't think of their protesting you know treat all right a journalist or huda as i could do the joining us live here on are too many thanks for the rushing of the program so quickly. fifty four countries held washington detained transfer and sometimes even tortured terrorist suspects in secret cia prisons and that's according to a top american engineer which was released the most detailed account yet of the notorious rendition program details not wattis guy nature can. this is a very comprehensive report prepared by the open society foundations not only do they detail tortur
here in the several headquarters of the ruling elite is the most policy around the country actually of not being set on fire and you see a tipping point here because ultimately tunisia is credited by many as being the opening the starting beginning points of what was the hour of spring in the scales tipped once again. yes i think you know i mean as i told you i mean everywhere i mean anger is prevailing and people are very very very angry and sad. about. it is no victims until now you know. you...
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hearing that several headquarters of the ruling element is the most policy around the country actually of not being set on fire did you see a tipping point here because ultimately tunisia is credited by many as being the opening the starting beginning points of what was the hour of spring in the scales tipped once again. yes yes i think you know i mean as i told you i mean everywhere i mean the anger is prevailing and people are very very very angry and sad. about the few does but. there is no we didn't don't know you know but you know people just. don't think of their protesting st. john as the huda as i could do the joining us live here on are too many thanks for writing on the program so quickly. fifty four countries held washington detained transfer and sometimes even tortured terrorist suspects in secret cia prisons and that's according to a top american and which was released the most detailed account yet of the notorious rendition program details now artie's guy nature can. this is a very comprehensive report prepared by the open society foundations not only do they detail tortu
hearing that several headquarters of the ruling element is the most policy around the country actually of not being set on fire did you see a tipping point here because ultimately tunisia is credited by many as being the opening the starting beginning points of what was the hour of spring in the scales tipped once again. yes yes i think you know i mean as i told you i mean everywhere i mean the anger is prevailing and people are very very very angry and sad. about the few does but. there is no...
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policy than its alstad leader hosni mubarak earlier journalist neil clark spoke to my colleague bill dog it's holding but iran needs all the friends that can get. around the strongest ally in the arab world has now been serious serious been a brutal ally of iran in the region why pro israel lobby why the americans while the saudis are sector are so keen to talk about now there's no such moment the syrian government is about where it's going around would be even more isolated than east today and even a very dangerous position so that's what makes sense for iran to be trying to use. all of their financial motives behind this meeting where we've got to believe the economies are bearing in mind the situation there in iran with all those sanctions appearing to have a quite an impact on the iranian economy do do you. they both need each other i think they do bill and i think probably more his point of view i think as we see hearty all the rest in egypt but people are very happy with how things are going legacy and carry on the violence it and shipped it on iraq will be one way that she can
policy than its alstad leader hosni mubarak earlier journalist neil clark spoke to my colleague bill dog it's holding but iran needs all the friends that can get. around the strongest ally in the arab world has now been serious serious been a brutal ally of iran in the region why pro israel lobby why the americans while the saudis are sector are so keen to talk about now there's no such moment the syrian government is about where it's going around would be even more isolated than east today and...